turbo kits

[M2-Motoring]

as you all know, theres no xD turbo kit on the market. that may change in the near future as my fabricator ( JRX Performance) has had a lot of fun tinkering with my scions. he is thinking about building a turbo kit for the xD in the near future IF there is enough of a market demand for it. dont expect to break the sound barrier with your xD, the kit will be something that functions well, and is reliable. if you want to go balls to the wall, u can always swap like my xD did.

what do u think? hehe

[TheLittleDeviant]

I think I would be the first in line to get a manifold/downpipe...

I am so close to completing my kit...

I dont understand why companies cant just make the parts and see how it goes... make like 3 kits and if they sell, great, make 5 more... if they dont, part em out for other cars and only take a hit on 3 of them total...

[CXTKRS1]

I guess the fear of losing money on the R&D side of things is what keeps companies from doing it.

[misformartin]

if its not worth it to the companey they are not gonna make product to have them sit on a shelf.... i for one would buy a kit mike as i already have talked to you : )

[M2-Motoring]

lol thanks martin.

as for just making a one or two piece kit, yes that is possible but that would be billed as a "one off" kit. much more expensive. if theres enough demand to do at least 5-10 kits to start off with, we'd definitely look into it =)

[misformartin]

so when can i get mine made mike : ) maybe beginning of next year... : )

[TheLittleDeviant]

If the price is decent I might do a whole kit from you, then I can sell off my current parts/old project car and have plenty left over for upgrades too :)

[misformartin]

yo the guy that woudl be making the kit is crazy legit jrx engineering kills the mazda game and have done good work for me in the past... im going to get with mike and see about getting the ball rolling on this : )

[TheLittleDeviant]

Please, some one talk them into doing it... I dont think I can handle another tease...
We already have had at least 3 companies who said they would do it and have fallen through...

[M2-Motoring]

JRX can do it for sure. im going to go over details and see how much it would cost. need a actual legit deposit from every buyer to ensure that they will sell at least 5 kits and they'll put the kit into production =)

[TheLittleDeviant]

JRX can do it for sure. im going to go over details and see how much it would cost. need a actual legit deposit from every buyer to ensure that they will sell at least 5 kits and they'll put the kit into production =)

Awesome!!!! Get us pricing and what we need for the deposit :signs1:

[misformartin]

for sure they do legit work...

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your gonna need cash for the deposit

[TheLittleDeviant]

your gonna need cash for the deposit

I was hoping to pay for it in bottle caps...

LOL, I meant how much...

[misformartin]

i know... lol : )

[YELOSUB]

Please, some one talk them into doing it... I dont think I can handle another tease...
We already have had at least 3 companies who said they would do it and have fallen through...

I know all too well...:emotions122: Glad to see another company stepping up...

[TheLittleDeviant]

Any word Mike?

[M2-Motoring]

not yet dude. we've been busy knocking out tuning and final stuff for a tC turbo kit im helping them market. ill get an answer soon tho =)

[gotDAMD]

Just seen your xD in a mag at the grocery store. Nice feature and write up. Wish they would have done a few more pics.

[M2-Motoring]

the kits im looking to build for the xD from my company are going to be selling minus fuel management aiming at 2k a set lol.


no diss to ptuning tho they do great work im friends with the peeps over there

[TheLittleDeviant]

That was my initial reaction too...

2 thousand on a deposit... usually means 6,000+ for total price... and they have not given an estimate on actual price for it either...

what type of deposit did you require mike?

[M2-Motoring]

thats what im waiting on. if you guys are patient we're going into r&d post sema. the shop i work with on developing all this is extremely busy for the next month or so getting sema vehicles ready so we're looking afterwards. please be patient. if anything half deposit to ensure a for sure kit. we're aiming at a very reasonable price for the kit. =)

[M2-Motoring]

i agree to seeing 200whp. although, i personally dont think thats fast. for a xD yes its fast, but then again im use to driving much faster vehicles. =)

regardless the turbo kit we'll be working with JRX on will be affordable and fun!

[M2-Motoring]

We already have a r&d vehicle. Thanks for the offer. Currently im letting JRX catch up on their work as they are backlogged on mazdas because of a waiting list. Great niche market to be a great shop in, but the work does become overbearing at times. Also our r&d car will be on display at sema w/o the kit of course. Once it's back from sema, we will be r&d'ing the kit.

[YELOSUB]

We already have a r&d vehicle. Thanks for the offer. Currently im letting JRX catch up on their work as they are backlogged on mazdas because of a waiting list. Great niche market to be a great shop in, but the work does become overbearing at times. Also our r&d car will be on display at sema w/o the kit of course. Once it's back from sema, we will be r&d'ing the kit.]

This is promising news...

[M2-Motoring]

in all respect to mike and the crew at ptuning, lets move all jrx kits posts back to the other thread. thanks everyone!

[TheLittleDeviant]

-Moved-


So Mike, when is SEMA? and do we get some sneak peak pictures?

BTW, in a week I will have money in hand for your turbo kit... any idea on what to expect for parts etc? type of turbo? internally/externally waste gated? type of BOV? type of intercooler? and any idea on fuel management? sorry for the barrage of questions but I am curious now that I know its only a month or 2 away from being R&D'd...

[M2-Motoring]

that i am waiting to sit down and talk with JRX about. we'll go over the details of everything post sema. they are very busy with getting caught up with work before we go into production with the kit. turbowise im guessing t3/t4, external wastegate and bov of course. brand i havent looked into what we're going to use yet. we'll be using a mishimoto intercooler and on fuel management more than likely aem fic and an injector upgrade. the fic seems to be a favorite amongst many. we will probably sell the kit minus fuel manage to make the cost of it much lower. with that everyone's got the option of what they want for fuel management also.

[TheLittleDeviant]

would you be able to supply maps with the kit if we decide to go with the same type of fuel management?

and I personally am partial to AIResearch/Garrett turbos...

[misformartin]

im sure the kit will come preturned with a street tuned basemap... but it still will have to be tuned proffesionaly..

[TheLittleDeviant]

im sure the kit will come preturned with a street tuned basemap... but it still will have to be tuned proffesionaly..

He said that they will not be providing a fuel management system so there would be nothing to tune with... but they use the AEM FIC like they plan too, we can do the same and hopefully get maps from Mike himself...

[misformartin]

hmm.. my understanding is that they would sell 2 versions of the kit one with and one without... so i was under the impression if you opted to get the fic it would come pre tuned... i could be wrong though...

[M2-Motoring]

martins on the money on that one =) i need to go over stuff with jrx soon regarding this. stay tuned folks!

[misformartin]

: )

[TheLittleDeviant]

oh alright cool, I must have been misformartin'd.... lol. Well, I will be looking for the the kit with tuning capabilities :D

[misformartin]

for sure the aem fic is a sick unit... i wish i ran that in my xb instead of the emanage blue... : )

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sema is getting close guys so after sema im looking forward to the kit : )

[TheLittleDeviant]

When is SEMA????? I am so excited about the kit!!!

[misformartin]

sema is the first week november : )

[TheLittleDeviant]

AWESOME!!! so we can be looking at the kit sometime at the beginning of next year!!!!! SOOOOOOOO EXCITTEDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[xd_kidd]

deff. looking foward to this =D

[DeathMachine]

This is good news to me! I know that I don't come on here very often, cause I often forget about this forum... But I'm glad that this information has come to light somewhere! I'm down for it! I'm kind of already working on a home-made kit, but I'm definitely willing to scrap it for a chance at a good quality kit!

[TheLittleDeviant]

This is good news to me! I know that I don't come on here very often, cause I often forget about this forum... But I'm glad that this information has come to light somewhere! I'm down for it! I'm kind of already working on a home-made kit, but I'm definitely willing to scrap it for a chance at a good quality kit!

Same here, I have already sold my other project car and all the extra turbo parts I was getting together so I can get the M2 Turbo kit.
:hands::favorites37::happy160::party36:

[xd_kidd]

This is good news to me! I know that I don't come on here very often, cause I often forget about this forum... But I'm glad that this information has come to light somewhere! I'm down for it! I'm kind of already working on a home-made kit, but I'm definitely willing to scrap it for a chance at a good quality kit!

I just got my account here (would mostly be on scionlife) and by the 2nd day I already forgot my password :laughing1: but yea im welcoming this kit in my car :hands:. Hopefully the money im saving, I dont end up blowin it on sumtin else lol

[xd_kidd]

is 200hp max what we can get from our xd with safe engine. I dont know how fast that would be on a light car. but atleast enough for a civic si with a few bolt on parts or so to hate on would be great if you catch my drift :rolleyes: lol

[Cylon_xD]

Haha!!

...you Honda hater! :D love it!

[xd_kidd]

honda make powerful engines. though 90% of honda owners are ignorant and cocky . so its time to put them in their place lol

bump

[M2-Motoring]

thanks for being patient guys. just need to get thru sema and we'll start working on it real soon =) i talked everything a little more with my fabricator. it isnt a "m2" kit per say but his kit. im just handling all the marketing and sales for him so he can focus on fabrication and installs for the local peeps. kit will be available in 2 or 3 stages.

[xd_kidd]

thanks for being patient guys. just need to get thru sema and we'll start working on it real soon =) i talked everything a little more with my fabricator. it isnt a "m2" kit per say but his kit. im just handling all the marketing and sales for him so he can focus on fabrication and installs for the local peeps. kit will be available in 2 or 3 stages.

I do like the sound of that lol. what does the upper stages consist of? stronger turbo? any ideas on how much horsepower were looking at with these stages?

we learn by asking questions too you know lol

[TheLittleDeviant]

Sniff, sniff.... I think I smell stage 3 for my xD! XD

[misformartin]

I do like the sound of that lol. what does the upper stages consist of? stronger turbo? any ideas on how much horsepower were looking at with these stages?

we learn by asking questions too you know lol

since teh kit hasnt been produced there are no numbers... only after the prototype has been done can number be posted... im guessing stage 1 will be just the turbo and engine management... stage 2 will include like bov/ intercooler and stage 3 will be a complete kit with intercooler / bov / engine management / injectors maybe even a fuel pump... we will see im definetely getting excited... wish sema was already here : )

[M2-Motoring]

martins got it pretty close. i still have to go over costs and breakdowns w/ JRX concerning the kits and the price points. a stage zero will be pretty cheap to get but of course it wont have a intercooler and so forth. to me personally and stock block 4 banger i always like smaller turbos as they spool fast and have more usable power. everyone seems to be concerned with high hp #'s, to me it's more about the curve. any motor can produce power but the question is, how and how safe? id like to get a nice reliable kit that spools quick and is very fun to drive, but of course it's up to JRX. they are rotary guys by nature and they love fast spooling setups. I'll be going over the whole thing post sema with them and see how it all rounds out. Is there a price point you guys are thinking about? Some input would like to be nice and please save sponsorship questions for later as we dont even have a kit yet lol. We already have our test vehicle which is martin's gf's xD. I'm personally thinking same turbo across the board on all 3 stages.

[misformartin]

well cats out the bag my gf xd will be the test mule... i agree keep the same turbo across all 3 stages just include like injectors and what not to make the stage 3 as complete as possible.... since this is the gonna be the only bolt on turbo kit you can pretty much charge w/e u want since you will have the market cornered... plus the new corolla / yaris ts use the same motor will help alot.... i would say an entry level stage 1 kit for about 1500 -2000 but i would imagine that this would be as basic as possible.... like a tuners kit no engine management.... no fuel upgrades... basically manifold / turbo.... piping. and go ip in price for each stage.... like 3500 for the stage 3 would be a good price as it would be complete.... now im not sure of all the components of the kit so i cant really base any real pricing out... just my 2 cents

[xd_kidd]

well cats out the bag my gf xd will be the test mule... i agree keep the same turbo across all 3 stages just include like injectors and what not to make the stage 3 as complete as possible.... since this is the gonna be the only bolt on turbo kit you can pretty much charge w/e u want since you will have the market cornered... plus the new corolla / yaris ts use the same motor will help alot.... i would say an entry level stage 1 kit for about 1500 -2000 but i would imagine that this would be as basic as possible.... like a tuners kit no engine management.... no fuel upgrades... basically manifold / turbo.... piping. and go ip in price for each stage.... like 3500 for the stage 3 would be a good price as it would be complete.... now im not sure of all the components of the kit so i cant really base any real pricing out... just my 2 cents

and my working/saving continues :(

if a stage 3 is 3.5k then it just brings up more questions to what it brings per stage. (intercooler, piping, engine management and fuel upgrade?)

[TheLittleDeviant]

I was thinking $500 to $600 increments with each stage. so around $1500 for stage 1 $2100 for stage 2 and $2700 for stage 3...

Mike as you said we aren't going to get crazy numbers out of the xD without serious internals so using a smaller turbo for quick spool time would be ideal.

If we can break that 200whp mark with the stage 3 that would make for some happy campers, but honestly I would be happy with about 50 more horse out of a stage 1...

[xd_kidd]

I agree with ted. 3.5k and still not breaking 200hp is abit odd. and one more question. since a stage 1 is a turbo/manifold.. then a stage 3 is a complete kit?

[misformartin]

as i am not the one producing the kit i can just assume.. 3500 would be reasonable for a complete kit with intercooler / bov / engine management / injectors..... a nice set of injectors alone is gonna be 500 bucks.... i think 200 whp would be a huge gain that would be over 60 hp gain.... for a bolt on kit that is reliable... i mean u can make the kit put out high numbers but i think the goal would be a safe tune / running kit.... and since there is no one else doing it.... a nice bov will run you 150-300 bucks...so price point is def reasonable considering that this will probably be the only bolt on kit in the market for a long time....

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price is gonna def depend on products used.... aem fic with a plug and play harness is not gonna be cheap either...

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so i guess well just have to wait till after sema to get my gf car in there and start the kit

[TheLittleDeviant]

Martin do you have a date that you are dropping off the GF's xD?

[misformartin]

after sema... right now the producing the kit is working on some other projects for sema... so im sure in the few weeks to follow they will start prototyping the kit

[TheLittleDeviant]

ok good, so we are looking at getting the kits soon then! SO EXCITED!!!

[misformartin]

yah... im gettin stoked at this point... : )

[302XD]

I found this on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Scion-xD--T3T4-Turbo-Charger-Kit_W0QQitemZ260431995717QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&itemid=260431995717

what do u guys think??

[xd_kidd]

haha no way dude... like buying condoms that never been tested before releasing them. would you buy it? I had too much soda lol.. but with ebay kits.. though i heard some where functional. but i it was on a honda lol. one piece after another will break. nd those pieces may not even fit as far as piping goes. slight chance it will work for alittle while but eventually u'll be back to the start and 900 bucks out the wallet

[TheLittleDeviant]

^^^ maybe I am blind, but I see no turbo manifold included in this ebay kit... probably the most important part we would need to use it... when I saw the link I thought maybe I could just junk the kit and keep the manifold... only to see that there is no manifold...

[xd_kidd]

maybe its a remote turbo kit :laughing1:

[Zefoxe]

That kit is a bunch of universal parts packaged together for any car.

Do we have a figure on what the deposit they would want?

[xd_kidd]

so whatever happened to this lol

[CXTKRS1]

so whatever happened to this lol

Reality set in lol.

[xd_kidd]

oh well lol . ima get a turbo for my xd. now where did ii put my gran turismo game? haha

[xDizzle]

lol haha isnt it forza??

[CXTKRS1]

lol haha isnt it forza??

Yep, probably gonna have to wait another 5 years before GT5 comes out lol.

[xd_kidd]

you guys are soo late. its already out lol

[xDizzle]

lol damn!!! im still in the cod phase