Rally xD

[JDMJim]

gets new livery?

http://img01.carview.co.jp/minkara/blog/000/020/254/540/20254540/P1.jpg

[xd_kidd]

its soo beautiful. im about to cry lol. castrols supras and celicas long lost brother lol

[CXTKRS1]

Engine specs?

[JDMJim]

shrugs.....it's a concept right now. I "heard" there may be a LSD involved. On the other hand, there is talk of Toyota getting back into WRC with an AWD Auris. I still wonder if Scion will adopt the JDM/Euro AWD platform for the xD

[SciFion]

I still wonder if Scion will adopt the JDM/Euro AWD platform for the xD

So hope so.. A trade might be in order. ;)

[x2cafn8dx]

definitely a trade would be in order :) even with my RS2

[xd_kidd]

it would be epic lol

[TheJonas53]

Fellow rallycrosser/friend took this while up at the Sno*Drift event a couple weeks ago.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5427483678_5b80c4718d_o.jpg

[x2cafn8dx]

i'm in love <3

[Cylon_xD]

I want those driving lights, put 'em onto my xD... lol.

[TheJonas53]

Yeah the hood mounts would be killer.

I just added two more Hella lights to my bar so now I have 6 total lights facing forward on my xD. I just wish I had them in pods like that.

[TexXBox]

I want those driving lights, put 'em onto my xD... lol.

Mount 'em on wiper motor transmissions and make them "scan" in time with the Cylon eye in your grill. :)

[Cylon_xD]

Yeah the hood mounts would be killer.

I just added two more Hella lights to my bar so now I have 6 total lights facing forward on my xD. I just wish I had them in pods like that.

I saw your pic on another thread with 4 lights on - can't tell with the lights lit in your pic, but are they those big 6" round Hella 500 lights? I had a couple of those on my Dodge Ram...

Lol, here's my Rally xD, from way back in 1983... :D

http://troyfrey.com/scion/lecar1.jpg

[TheJonas53]

I saw your pic on another thread with 4 lights on - can't tell with the lights lit in your pic, but are they those big 6" round Hella 500 lights? I had a couple of those on my Dodge Ram...

Lol, here's my Rally xD, from way back in 1983... :D

http://troyfrey.com/scion/lecar1.jpg

Yep 4 6" hella 500s.

I be that was a fun little car.

[JDMJim]

right here!

http://image.modified.com/f/15579449+w750+st0/0308_05z+1986_renault_r5_turbo2+front_left_view.jp %20%20g

[TexXBox]

I actually had an opportunity to check out an R5 turbo in the flesh 20 odd years ago. Hella fast little car. In some vehicles you ride along, in an R5 you are along for the ride. :)

[SciFion]

Fellow rallycrosser/friend took this while up at the Sno*Drift event a couple weeks ago.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5427483678_5b80c4718d_o.jpg

Oooh, fun fun!

[JDMJim]

hell, i do that here. without all the rally parts. if it's cold enough, I can pull a no rules slide really good

[Cylon_xD]

right here!

http://image.modified.com/f/15579449+w750+st0/0308_05z+1986_renault_r5_turbo2+front_left_view.jp %20%20g

Aw man, you just had to post that R5 up... I always wanted very badly to own one of those, back when I had my two LeCars... :(

Dan, my LeCar was a fun little car to drive, but it only had something like a 93 hp motor in it... so the xD is much MORE fun to drive, lol... I actually bought the xD because it kinda reminded me of my LeCars... I even copied the body graphics idea from the LeCar to do a similar graphic on my xD... :thumbsup:

[TheJonas53]

http://www.specialstage.com/2011/02/09/duplessiswoods-will-the-rally-xd-back-to-the-podium-on-snow-and-ice/

[Rally xD]

The official team site for the Rally xd team - www.rallyxd.com

Slowly all info related to this special xD should be found on that site but if it isn't feel free to ask and i'll do my best to answer them.

[robbiej]

Thanks for joining our forum. Love to see an xD rally racing.

[Rally xD]

Cool pic from one of our races from last year! You won't find any of our last years stuff on the team site. The team site will only have 2011 stuff.

[TheJonas53]

I am really curious about the LSD. Did it have to be custom done or is there actually something for our trans?

[x2cafn8dx]

Cool pic from one of our races from last year! You won't find any of our last years stuff on the team site. The team site will only have 2011 stuff.


haha i love it

[Rally xD]

The LSD was an off the shelf product from Quaife. Not your std clutch based LSD but gear based. Very good for us since we wanted max reliability and min wear and tear.

[xd_kidd]

thats pretty bad ass if they almost made 1st place and made a lot of time back from their flat tire

[Whack-A-Mole]

Thanks for your site! I really enjoyed reading up on it. Have you done many mods to the engine or do you keep it simple to stay in a specific class? Engine bay pic would be sweet. I saw where it said you were having fluid consumption problems. What insight do you have on this. Last, did you convert the rear to disk brakes or did you keep it drum?

[Rally xD]

Only "performance mods," Performance filter, headers, exhaust. So far we've kept the mods to a min to help avoid additional headaches. We are still learning a lot about rally racing and the major wear and tear the car has to go through. We are exploring making more power but reliability and serviceability is always our main goal and don't want to threaten that. I'll get more detailed photos on the site soon. Fluid problems... on one of the night stages, one of the cars had a major accident forcing all the cars to wait until it was cleared off a safe. Due to this wait, our car consumed more fuel then we anticipated and we ended up "running" our of fuel close to the stage finish and ended up having to get towed back in! That and a blown tire on stage really made it tough but we were able to battle back and make up a lot of time to still take 2nd in our 2wd class. We have not changed out the drums...but are considering changing that as well.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Thanks for the info man. I really love to watch rallies on tv. If Rally America comes through Cherokee Trails I would try to make it out to watch in person. What suspension besides the tein have you guys used, you know like rear sway bar ect.?

[Rally xD]

Other than the front and rear Tein suspension, we used the TRD rear sway bar and made a front tower bar. Hopefully you can see it from this image.

[robbiej]

It would be cool to see some of your runs from the onboard cameras, if you have them and could put together a video.

[Whack-A-Mole]

I really like my Nitto rear lower strut tower brace I got from Miroimage. It's made for the Yaris and fits our car. The problem for you guys though is probably ground clearance. I know if an animal ran out in front of me I could probably strattel it, but it would get a hellatious clothes line from the brace. I can feel a difference in turn in with it though!

[Rally xD]

It would be cool to see some of your runs from the onboard cameras, if you have them and could put together a video.

There was a lot of coverage and we are compiling it all as we speak. We plan to post up a video of our event coverage in the next week or two. The video portion was late to start b/c the truck/trailer/team with the video equipment got stuck in the crazy winter storm in the mid-west as they were traveling back from Sno*Drift. I'll post up a link once the video is up. You'll be able to see it on the team site and youtube.

[robbiej]

cool, thanks...

[robbiej]

Are you going to make the next 2 Rally America events? Olympus and Oregon Trail, would like to try to make one or both of these events if you are going to be there.

[Whack-A-Mole]

How could we get one of those spiffy shirts or jackets. I can't believe you guys are doing so well with basically stock hp. One heck of a driver and support team!

[Rally xD]

The team will update on the site the next event it plans to attend. It's 50/50 on the Olympus Rally, it's 100% on the Oregon Trail. There is currently a "giveaway" on the site right now for some team shirts. Check it out at www.rallyxd.com

[Whack-A-Mole]

How many times can you enter?

[Rally xD]

The top 3 captions will win so if you got a few, go ahead and send them but each entrant can only place once. So the more you have, the better your chances will be.

[Whack-A-Mole]

First, thanks for the desktop wallpaper! Second, I like Seibon, and I was looking at your pics. So is your hood dry carbon???!:drool:

[Rally xD]

Our hood isn't a dry carbon hood...just your standard one from them. We should've asked for one! We just put the xD on the dyno at the Greddy facility and we produced 119 horsepower to the wheels with only the TRD filter, bolt on headers and cat back exhaust. Not bad. We're going to be developing the engine i think.

[simmons0613]

You know that they make CF fenders as well, I'm not sure if that will help much though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230587827551&viewitem=

This is just one site I found them on.

[Whack-A-Mole]

I am eager to watch what you guys do. Keep us posted.

[Rally xD]

Thanks on the CBF fenders. We are not going to use them...at least not yet. Our fenders (only set) have some body work done to them and they want to keep the aggressive look for now. The car is now getting some engine development. We'll be releases pics this week.

[simmons0613]

you guys are making me want to put some big ass light like that on my car.

[Whack-A-Mole]

RallyXD are you guys thinking about going forced induction? It would be pretty cool! The XD is starving for aftermarket support. Bemani makes a rotrex kit, but it's only available overseas for the Yaris TS (same chasis and 2zr-fe).

[Rally xD]

.....just got a memo. The race car hasn't left Greddy's R&D dept since it was there for the dyno. I'll post up an image of some "piping." Let me know what you think.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Do you think after they're done there might be a version of it for us to purchase?

[JDMJim]

119 at the wheels. not bad.

[xd_kidd]

Its quick for what it is especially for 119hp. I run mines a few times and even surprise myself that I won. The lack of aftermarket support is still whack. Im hoping to finish paying my car off by the end of the year. Then debate to motor swap or get another car most likely back to my turbo volvos lol

[Rally xD]

There is talk by Greddy to make an aftermarket for purchase version. I can probably help that process if enough interest or inquiries are made.

[Rally xD]

First shots of the new turbo upgrade on the Rally xD by Greddy performance. More develops to come. More images will be available online on the team site asap.

[simmons0613]

Is all that custom made or is that a kit they offer? Just curious.

[xd_kidd]

This is going to be interesting (eating popcorn)

[simmons0613]

^^^ pass some over here

[Whack-A-Mole]

Let us know what we can do! Also, there would be alot of interest at Scionlife's XD lounge. I'ld love one!

[xd king]

yeah i want one too

[Rally xD]

Right now due to the rush and lack of time, the kit is being made custom. There is talk in make a production version if enough interest comes from it. Right now word is that the turbo will be "de-tuned" heavily w/ restrictors to keep the power down and allow the turbo and piggy back ecu system to work w/o any problems with the bone stock engine/pistons/etc. On rally race stages, the xD needs just a little push to get out of the slower turns to get back up to speed. Also keeping the turbo restricted will help to keep the heat and stress low keep serviceability and reliability high. We'll see..will update again soon.

If "you" wanted a kit...how much horsepower would you ideally want?

[Whack-A-Mole]

I would like around 200hp though 250hp would be sweet! Or 8psi of their fastest spool!

[xd king]

i agree around 200 to the wheels would be nice and fast spooling

[JDMJim]

keyword is interest. there's all kind of interest. there is all kinds of "not wanting to spend the money"....like me.

[Whack-A-Mole]

What can we do to show interest?

[Rally xD]

Thats understandable. i know the team choose to go with a much smaller turbo. We'll see. The team asked Greddy for 35-50 horsepower and they said "thats it!" The first stage of adapting the turbo without any further engine development is the goal right now. The extra power is needed to help the xD get out of the turns better.

[Whack-A-Mole]

I'll enjoy following you guy's blog. Thanks for keeping an ear to the ground. So you guys are running about 4-6 psi?

[xd_kidd]

yea ii wld love to see what potentials a 2zr-fe gots but its understandable. Im also guessing too much boost power could cause a bit less traction on the course.

[Rally xD]

Potentially, Greddy is saying 100-150 but then we'll have to start building the engine...clutch....etc. We're taking it slow and steady. We hit the dyno later today or tomorrow so we'll get some more numbers soon.

After our kit is finished, we're going to see what exactly it'll take to get a production kit for all of the xD fans/owners out there. More info to come.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Thanks, and best of luck! I've got money put back for a kit, but it's been a long wait. One question I have is if if I get a turbo kit how would that effect emissions testing? I live in a county that just checks for engine codes and gas cap seal.

[CXTKRS1]

Thanks, and best of luck! I've got money put back for a kit, but it's been a long wait. One question I have is if if I get a turbo kit how would that effect emissions testing? I live in a county that just checks for engine codes and gas cap seal.

The codes can be tuned out if any are thrown and the gas cap seal will not be an issue.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Well thanks for the heads up! I knew the gas cap seal was not a issue, but I wondered about hooking it up to the obd.

[CXTKRS1]

What can we do to show interest?

Their has been interest since the xD was released but people tend to back out once real world cost are understood. Any serious power would be require internal upgrades and beefing up of the transmission. It is possible to see an 6K-8Kprice tag when it is all said and done and once you reach that price point then other sports car become available that would be better options.

[Whack-A-Mole]

I'm familiar with all that, but I think 200 hp (total) would be safely realized with a good tune. I was wanting to know what Greddy was wanting to see. I like my car for what it is, but a little more pep would go a long way! Thank you Rally XD for keeping us up on the info, and keep up the good works!

[Rally xD]

First dyno session went without any problems. We obviously didn't push it and wanted to make sure everything was working correctly. We got 40+ horsepower, 45+ lbs of torque at 4 psi. We'll post the first dyno sheet shortly on the site. More dyno/tuning to coming.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Cool beans! The intercooler bypass is pretty neat as well.

[Rally xD]

So we had our first dyno session and so far so good. We still have our engine in place and everything is working. We haven't developed any of the engine's internals and are hoping to just get a little more power out of those slow dirt/snow/mud turns on the stages.

On this first session we were only at 4 psi. We got about 50+ horses and lbs of torque. I believe Greddy installed a restrictor to keep everything down as a precaution. Stayed tuned.

[Rally xD]

Video of the dyno session from greddy.

http://greddy-usa.blogspot.com/2011/03/another-after-hours-project-for-greddy.html

[Whack-A-Mole]

150 to the ground is nice, you should definitely feel that!

[Arwen]

Very nice! Love the blog :)

[Rally xD]

Tuning almost done. Greddy has prepped the xD to run on a low and high setting during competition. More info to come online at the team site.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Good gracious! I thought you were done, and here you have crept closer to 200hp with 167hp. With the LSD I bet the car feels like a different animal!

[CXTKRS1]

Will be interesting to see how the engine holds up after long term use. If the 1.8 can hold together with at lest six psi then I think their will be some significant interest generated by this...now will Greddy make a kit for the general population is another story.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Will be interesting to see how the engine holds up after long term use. If the 1.8 can hold together with at lest six psi then I think their will be some significant interest generated by this...now will Greddy make a kit for the general population is another story.

@ CXTKRS1 it does pay to be objective. Think posative man! I am really pumped for this. Our compression is not to high, but I wonder about our fuel system or afm. @ Rally XD did you guys have to upgrade anything? Fuel pump/injectors/afm/fuel rail ect? I'm religiously following your blog, and loving it!

[Rally xD]

Will be interesting to see how the engine holds up after long term use. If the 1.8 can hold together with at lest six psi then I think their will be some significant interest generated by this...now will Greddy make a kit for the general population is another story.

Definitely something we are all wondering about. The E-manage is set at 2 different setting, one at 4 psi, the other at 6 psi. The dual settings will allow the driver some options during the stages. We hope to have some testing sessions soon prior to the next race event.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Since you announced the winner to the caption contest, could you also tell us your favorites that didn't win?

[Rally xD]

There were a lot of really good submissions. So much participation that we are going to have another giveaway, this time something even cooler. Stayed tuned for that post online on the team site for contest and prize information.

[Rally xD]

We're giving away a new HD GoPro camera for the next competition/giveaway.

Post with details online at the team site this week.

[xd_kidd]

I deff. Gotta have this lol

[Skeeno]

We're giving away a new HD GoPro camera for the next competition/giveaway.

Post with details online at the team site this week.
Nice.

I have always enjoyed rally and now that I have an xD and you guys rally the xD, it's like a match made in heaven.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Fill us in on that new clutch! Aftermarket parts are hard to find, and I went to ACT's website (probably not up to date) and they didn't have a kit readily available. So the fact you found one is awesome! It's obviously performance oriented, but what all does it include? Is it lighter, just more friction, does it include a lighter flywheel, and does the part coincide for another vehicle and fit our car as well? Religiously watching, all bow down before the mighty Rally XD!

[Rally xD]

Rumor has it that an existing off the shelf clutch is compatible. Getting info from our techs and ACT soon. Will post up info asap.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Well, I'll go ahead and guess. Yaris clutch?

[Rally xD]

Giveaway details are up..go check them out.

Waiting on info on the clutch. Hope to get them for you this week/weekend.

[xd_kidd]

Ima say corolla clutch

[Rally xD]

Yeah I heard it could be. I also heard it could be a Celica, MR2 and even Lotus.

[Whack-A-Mole]

I was reading your blog, and saw that before Chris left he wanted the XD turbo charged. All I can say is god bless that man, and wish him well in his future ventures.

[Rally xD]

Who doesn't want more power right! Last years goals didn't have engine development in the plans. This year...different story. Plus now with ACP driving, had to do it. It'll be interesting to see even with the turbo how he'll pilot a car with less then 1/2 the power of his standard rally race car.

[xd king]

i want more power, i have 6 renderings done for the contest already just gotta send them in

[Rally xD]

We look forward to seeing all of your renderings. Send some finished ones in.

[robbiej]

I need to print up a few of those pics and get out the crayons, get to coloring, lol.

[simmons0613]

Oh hell ya. I'm hoppin' in on this one. I can finally apply my designs to an xd.

[xd_kidd]

damn ii wish ii can photoshop. time to bring out the colored pencils lol

[Whack-A-Mole]

So have they filled you in on which clutch kit they gave you?

[Rally xD]

I hope to have that info for you by the end of the weekend. Also...just heard from the techs that we are going to test a KAAZ LSD along with the new ACT clutch.

[XDevolution]

I just saw your dyno graphs and i have a question, does your baseline reading include and other performance parts that add HP and TRQ or is it just the turbo kit alone. To my knowledge you guys have the GReddy exhaust as well i just wanna know if that was included.

[Rally xD]

You are correct. The baseline already included the greddy exhaust and the weapon R headers.

[XDevolution]

You are correct. The baseline already included the greddy exhaust and the weapon R headers.

correct me if im wrong, the baseline of 115.5 whp and 115.04 lbs-trq included the header and the exhaust? wow that means our car has like no power to the wheels. whats the absolute baseline with NO modifications

[Whack-A-Mole]

It depends on the Dyno and the altitude.

[CXTKRS1]

What is said should be no surprise, the car only has 128 HP stock. I'm curious to know what RPM was the HP and torque was measured at.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Here's K&N's Dyno they did a couple of years ago. http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-8615_dyno.pdf

[CXTKRS1]

Here's K&N's Dyno they did a couple of years ago. http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-8615_dyno.pdf

Eh it is like a wanna be old and busted V8 with that torque and RPM read out.

[Whack-A-Mole]

I like it! It's a nice long flat power band. Dude, I swear you hate your car. Why don't you sell it, and quit you glum remarks? There's tons of other vehicles that might impress upon on you, but this one doesn't seem to be for you. I can go around and crap on (ad nauseum) other cars, but I don't. The main reason I don't is because I know a car can be a personal thing, and people choose their cars depending on what they like. So it's always going to be an opinionated decision, and I respect/understand that. So to sum up I guess, just don't be a dick, dude.

[Rally xD]

The reality of what the xD is can't be changed but on the flip side, there are a lot of surprising options out there to really enhance the car's performance. It's a great looking, functionally capable vehicle with just a few add on (bolts-on) accessories can greatly enhance the driving experience. We're going to compile a list of parts, where to buy, from whom on all of the stuff we've researched out on our xD. In the end...we're actually racing and we're holding our own which has really been a great experience.

We race this weekend and are busy with tuning/prep. So bare with us on this weekend's posts on the team site: rallyxd.com

[XDevolution]

Here's K&N's Dyno they did a couple of years ago. http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-8615_dyno.pdf

see i like the numbers on this graph and they clearly display a stock curve and a modified curve. this is the 3rd time ive posted about this, and i've contacted rally xd. i just need a graph to go by.

K&N graph shows numbers from a stock XD.
Greddy's graph shows very similar numbers but the XD is modded.

conditions have an affect on things but it shouldnt be a big enough affect where a modded XD has less HP and TRQ than a stock XD.

---------- Post added at 11:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:05 AM ----------

"We're going to compile a list of parts, where to buy, from whom on all of the stuff we've researched out on our xD. "

it would be much appreciated, I'm always looking for parts for the XD but really can't find any. whenever you can put up an updated list. it would be much appreciated.

[CXTKRS1]

I like it! It's a nice long flat power band. Dude, I swear you hate your car. Why don't you sell it, and quit you glum remarks? There's tons of other vehicles that might impress upon on you, but this one doesn't seem to be for you. I can go around and crap on (ad nauseum) other cars, but I don't. The main reason I don't is because I know a car can be a personal thing, and people choose their cars depending on what they like. So it's always going to be an opinionated decision, and I respect/understand that. So to sum up I guess, just don't be a dick, dude.

Whoa are you serious with this BS? I hate my car because I was not impressed with the dynograph that resembles something that would be in a truck? Alot of people on this board and other places like scionlife seem to be on cloud nine about this car and all I do is add a little dose of reality.

[XDevolution]

Whoa are you serious with this BS? I hate my car because I was not impressed with the dynograph that resembles something that would be in a truck? Alot of people on this board and other places like scionlife seem to be on cloud nine about this car and all I do is add a little dose of reality.

I dont care about the graph itself, power is power, as long as its recognized and gained thats wht should matter. some one also has said our power band resmebles a b-series civic

[Rally xD]

Fuel pump was upgraded...we grabbed a spare/stock tC one laying around at Greddy from one of their time attack cars. KAAZ lsd isn't going to make it to this upcoming race. We'll have to wait and test that upgrade at the next event in Oregon.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Good luck on the upcoming event. That's cool to know you can interchange with the TC fuel pump! Did you upgrade the injectors as well?

Got those shirts today, Thanks Rally xD!

[Rally xD]

Injectors....we did not. Stock. We do our first real test with our driver ACP tomorrow.

[simmons0613]

post vids if you can. I would love to see it run with the new upgrades.

[Skeeno]

I see a DNF/Mechanical at Rally AMerica. What happened/how were you doing? Give us an update.

[xd_kidd]

I been on this site for sometime as well on scionlife. the matter of fact is... let them be. we already understand where your coming. but chill. don't be that one douche to ruin it for everyone. if they are wrong or whatever. let them learn. if you want rant about reality. make your own thread and we'll read it from time to time.

[Rally xD]

Quick Update: Saturday's race we finished 4th in class. We had to deal with major damage to the car's exterior and internals and were pretty much running the race at 60% capacity/speed. Will post up a picture soon once i get it. Pretty much our exhaust pipe was hit by rocks to a point it was practically pinched and blocked significant air flow creating extreme build up = down pipe came off = heat released and melted ecu wiring = car went hay wire. The event ended up being a 1 day event due to an accident on one of the stages that lead to a death of a driver.

On Sunday, we entered in a Regional rally event since we were out there after staying up all night Saturday getting the car repaired. Our repairs were good enough to put us in the lead most of the day but the band aid couldn't hold up and the ECU pretty much said that was enough. We were towed by in = DNF.

Videos and images to hit the team site this week. We tested at the Dirtfish facility on Thursday and the car was hauling.

[Rally xD]

Check out this picture of our exhaust pipe. This is the "elbow" portion going around the fuel tank to the exhaust can. Definitely not what you want when you have a turbo feeding extra heat and air.

[simmons0613]

Holy Sh**, how did you manage that? You must have bottomed out really hard while that thing what white hot.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Wow, that looks like it took a proper beating. Did you guys get any footage at full speed before the exhaust took a shellacking? 4th isn't horrible. You just have to wait till next time. I'm proud you guy are racing the XD!

[CXTKRS1]

I been on this site for sometime as well on scionlife. the matter of fact is... let them be. we already understand where your coming. but chill. don't be that one douche to ruin it for everyone. if they are wrong or whatever. let them learn. if you want rant about reality. make your own thread and we'll read it from time to time.

Me thinks you might have posted in the wrong thread.

[xd_kidd]

No its targeting you and its not on a wrong thread if your replying to it.. Enough said...

[Rally xD]

Actually....the damage to the pipe wasn't from bottoming out. it's from impact from rocks underneath. There was so much impact and serious impact that it pinched the pipe closed and event pulled the exhaust down/off forcing the down pipe to get disconnected. Thats what lead to major issues on the car...all the heat was released in the worst area and our ecu pretty much got fried.

We'll be releases videos and pics on the team site soon. Will share some teasers here when i get them.

[Skeeno]

Thanks, Rally xD. I love these updates. You guys are really good at keeping your blog and website up to date.

[CXTKRS1]

No its targeting you and its not on a wrong thread if your replying to it.. Enough said...

Does my honesty bug you kidd? I will not censor what I have to say and if you do not like it then I suggest you grow a thicker skin. For the most part I enjoy my xD with only minor complaints. I also enjoy seeing a professional race team use the xD since this will help with the creation of aftermarket parts for our cars since obviously membership group buys do not work.

[Rally xD]

Cool photo our guys at dirtfish rally took of the xD on stage. Still amazes me when i see the xD racing.

Anyone up in the Portland area? Next race OTR next weekend.

[xd_kidd]

Does my honesty bug you kidd? I will not censor what I have to say and if you do not like it then I suggest you grow a thicker skin. For the most part I enjoy my xD with only minor complaints. I also enjoy seeing a professional race team use the xD since this will help with the creation of aftermarket parts for our cars since obviously membership group buys do not work.

in a way it does cause most of what you say is repetitive.. it doesn't hold much power.. needs internal.. ect ect.. we get the point lol. let ppl believe whatever they wanna believe. if they think pigs can fly.. let them be nd let them learn.

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so the fmic is mounted on the top grill? I would like to see the piping on that lol

[simmons0613]

To kidd and CXTKRS1, I'm sorry guys but do you mind not blowing up this thread with arguments. This thread is keep everyone up todate with the rally xD. I dont mind you guys having a little argument and showing your opinions but could you please move it somewhere else, such as a PM. Please keep this thread positive to keep everyones moral up for this car. Thanks.

[robbiej]

Hoping to get out to the Oregon Trail Rally this Friday to see the Rally xD.

[simmons0613]

I would love to see it but I'm stuck down here in north Florida. plus Im flat broke.

[Rally xD]

robbiej - any chance you'll be in OR thursday night? There is a fan appreciation display right in downtown Portland Thursday afternoon. Then in the evening, Scion Racing/Sparco Rally xD will be hosting a small reception.

[robbiej]

hmm, wow, that would be great. I work swingshift and was going to take Fri. off to hit PIR, but may take Thurs. off instead. Where is the receptin taking place? I heard that the fan appreciation is at Pioneer Square.

[xd_kidd]

I've noticed on the site that you just got a clutch kit. reminds if theres any flywheel that is compatable with ours?

[Rally xD]

xd_kidd - Yes we got a kit from ACT. They spec'ed our stock clutch and they had a compatible one off the shelf. I'm waiting on them to get the exact part number/etc.

robbiej - Yes there is a fan appreciation day at the courthouse. A pretty cool and relaxing event where you can check out a lot of the cars competing this weekend. The reception location is still a secret. If you do end up going, let me know. I can give you details later or even at the fan appreciation event.

[XDevolution]

any word on any other aftermarket parts for the XD and how about the greddy turbo kit whats the deal with that?

[xd_kidd]

I like the xd is running f/i .. but would be happy if they had cams and pistons.. any way that you can find information if theirs any other engine compatible with ours. I think we still are pretty much like the 1zz

[robbiej]

I'm going to put in for Thursday off and head down to check out the cars. Wife is leaning towards staying home because its suppose to be cool and rain, like it has almost every day the last month or so, lol. Being a stem cell transplant patient, she doesn't want to take the chance of getting a cold or anything, immune system is still rebuilding.

[CXTKRS1]

I like the xd is running f/i .. but would be happy if they had cams and pistons.. any way that you can find information if theirs any other engine compatible with ours. I think we still are pretty much like the 1zz

I do not know of any company currently producing any after market pistons or rods for the 1.8L but any large company could make you a custom one off set. Their of course would be a cost increase but it is really not that much, guys with custom bore and stroke engines do it all the time.

[xd_kidd]

Yea im pretty sure they can. But wonder by how much is the question. I decided to keep the car and finish modifying it. mite as well finish lol.

[xd_kidd]

did you use the E350 Quaife ATB Helical LSD differential?

[XDevolution]

did you use the E350 Quaife ATB Helical LSD differential?

i hope its that one lol, its the only scion/toyota lsd there. i just did the currency exchange rate conversion, thats gonna cost $955 not to mention shipping and handling. and would it work for automatics?

[Rally xD]

We did use a quaife originally but now we are using one from KAAZ. OTR will be our first event with the KAAZ. Sorry, a lot of info on this is still hard to get as testing etc isn't all finished but the hardest part of it is finding compatibility.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Watching your blog, I saw your tool kit you carry with you. In your blog you mention an impact gun, and I was wanting to know what kind it was.

[Rally xD]

Snap-On impact gun in the car. Probably not necessary and we could run another brand thats more cost effective. This gun isn't used that often.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Reason I ask is I bought a Hitachi WR18DL. It won't knock off the lugs on my car, but I still have use for. I also bought a nameless brand from Walmart for $30 which will only knock off my wheel lugs if the car is running (it runs off the cigarette lighter). I've heard the Snap on cordless impact wrench is held with well regard.

[Rally xD]

honestly....no one will every say anything bad about Snap-on.

[robbiej]

There are some videos up on rally-america.com from the OTR. The xD is in a couple of them and some cool in car videos. http://www.rally-america.com/

[robbiej]

Congrats on the 7th place overall and 1st in 2wd class at the Oregon Trail Rally. Wish I could've been there. Listened in on OTR internet radio and caught some of the interviews with ACP at the end of some of the stages, sounds like they were having fun battling with the Mazda Speed3. Way to hammer it home guys.

[simmons0613]

Did greddy ever say if they where going to sell the turbo system?

[Whack-A-Mole]

God, I hope so!

[xd_kidd]

what ii want are some camshafts and pistons! lol

[XDevolution]

what ii want are some camshafts and pistons!
lol

that would be very nice as well. definitly would give more support for the turbo kit. i still actually would like to see a supercharger, but, the turbo kit is still better than nothing.

[simmons0613]

what ii want are some camshafts and pistons! lol

couldnt you just have some custom pistons made for you? That would be nice to say that you have 1 off pistons.

[xd_kidd]

i can but im estimating ii would pay an additional 50% from what aftermarket pistons and camshafts would cost *shrugs*

[simmons0613]

ya thats understandable. I guess all we can do it just wait and pray someone hears out plea.

[CXTKRS1]

i can but im estimating ii would pay an additional 50% from what aftermarket pistons and camshafts would cost *shrugs*

A custom forged bottom end on your car would probably be $2000 to $3000 before labor and after market camshafts.

[xd_kidd]

haha it does cost to play ii guess. I can swap motors for under 3k with labor and parts.. we'll see what ii come up with...

[Rally xD]

Hey guys...don't forget about our livery contest. You've got 2 more weeks left before the judging starts.

[robbiej]

hmmmm, guess I need to break out the crayons, or figure out how to do it in mspaint.

[Rally xD]

We recently tested successfully a new KAAX LSD and final gear. Info on the gear specs will be posted on our team site: rallyxd.com This is a true closed diff regardless of traction. The pair of upgrades really helped our new Greddy turbo at the last race event in Oregon.

[XDevolution]

We recently tested successfully a new KAAX LSD and final gear. Info on the gear specs will be posted on our team site: rallyxd.com This is a true closed diff regardless of traction. The pair of upgrades really helped our new Greddy turbo at the last race event in Oregon.

any word on which lsd application is compatable and does it work for an automatic?

[robbiej]

Why didn't they have the big wing on at OTR? I knew something was missing when I saw it at the Slate.

[Rally xD]

The custom spoiler was "contested" and ends up being illegal due to specifics in the rule book. Funny how someone would be worried about our spoiler when we're clearly still underpowered. We're making some changes to it so it can be ran on the stages legally.

XDev - good question about the LSD on Autos. let me ask Kaaz and let you know.

[xd_kidd]

what manual transmission are we running? or are you using a different transmission and retrofitted to the engine .. me thinks you are lol .. running a e153 trans..do ii get a cookie now? even if im wrong (which ii prolly am or not) ii jst had some chocolate chip cookies :)

[simmons0613]

Your going to share, right? *hold out hand* :licklips:

[XDevolution]

thanks rally, i still would like to see more pics of the turbo and any other parts you guys have installed (down pipe,turbo manifold, turbo itself). i read somewhere u have a Greddy catback or is it just the spectrum elite axleback. im really looking forward to a turbo kit for the D. definitly would open the golden doors for more aftermarket support.

[xd_kidd]

Your going to share, right? *hold out hand* :licklips:

only if you get the soda :)

[simmons0613]

Deal! :drink_nl:

[Rally xD]

any word on which lsd application is compatable and does it work for an automatic?

Kaaz got back to me. unfortunately, the LSD will NOT work with A/T.

[XDevolution]

Kaaz got back to me. unfortunately, the LSD will NOT work with A/T.

beat -__- it wouldve been nice. what about the turbo kit? manual only?

[xd_kidd]

so did i discover your secret and running an e153 trans? :fish_h4h:

[Rally xD]

beat -__- it wouldve been nice. what about the turbo kit? manual only?

I can't answer that right now. Since the kit we have right now is still custom...i would have to say that it's specific to the manual. I'll check with greddy and let you know. I think it's safe to assume that if a kit came out for this, it would be applicable to both a/t and m/t.

[Whack-A-Mole]

You guys did great! When's the next race? Also any info on that clutch from ACT? Maybe they could find us a lightened flywheel while they're at it! Our flywheel Toyota part number is 13405-37050. Thanks again for racing with the D!

[xd_kidd]

is any1 listening to what I'm sayn about my trans theory? Lol

[simmons0613]

lol I dont think they care.

[xd_kidd]

Cause I'm right lol.. lsd.. flywheel.. and clutch upgrade is not compatible to our cars otherwise it be in the market. Now the e153 trans bolts on to many of toyotas cars even the new motors.. and that trans have aftermarket parts. So I'm sure that trans bolts to our engine..

[simmons0613]

good point, now if only we had the money to blow on one

[Whack-A-Mole]

Thought we had the c50 trans same as the yaris. Now the flywheel part number is the same as the late model corolla and matrix. Check it
http://www.toyotapartszone.com/oem/toyota~flywheel~sub~assy~13405-37050.html

[xd_kidd]

Well ii think we do.. but I'm askin him if he swapped trans cause he said he used an lsd that's designed for t for e153 engine for toyotas in which I'm assuming he's using that trans... and the last time ii checked... the e153 isn't expensive but some very with milage... if you dnt mind 100k then 500-100 bucks?

[XDevolution]

well rally did say he found a compatable lsd and clutch. im pretty sure if they wouldve tranny swapped it wouldve been one of the first things posted on the rallyxd site. Just like certain suspension parts from the yaris are compatable with ours its almost certain there are other toyotas with compatible parts (ex. 2009 rav4 uses same front brake system as the XD) there for rotors and pads are interchangable. its all a matter of lookin for the application list of certain parts and most aftermarket sites dont offer that option (just to make more money off a multi application part)

[xd_kidd]

ok ii made another discovery... the mr2 spyders carry c50 trans if im not mistaking.. ii guess that checks out but ii think e153 is a possibility... ima just gonna motor swap lol

[Rally xD]

Definitely no tranny swaps for us. The xD does share a same tranny code as the spyder and "some" parts are compatible after careful measurement. The same KAAZ LSD is compatible with some other toyotas.

[XDevolution]

ah ha!! quik question. Is the XD one-wheel-peel? or is the stock differential more biased to one side?

[Rally xD]

Sorry. Not quite sure what your asking. Will do my best to answer. We were not able to determine if the stock diff favors one side over the other. It was clearly a necessity to get one. We used a gear based Quaife lsd first then changed to the clutch based Kaaz lsd.

[xd_kidd]

ok rally can you please let us kno what flywheel your using. would like to make some more power on my box too. thanks btw are we running the c50? the more ii reseach im at it the more ii question it.. c50 engines mostly went on the 90's toyota cars if im not mistakn.

[XDevolution]

essientially i was asking the same question twice lol but the quaife lsd would you have any knowledge if that would work on an automatic? this is an upgrade im very interested in. the quaife site doesnt have much info on there product.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Here ya go Kidd
http://www.villagescionparts.com/products/Scion/XD/BEARING--NEEDLE-ROLLER-FOR-5TH-GEAR/2429357/9036424006.html

[Rally xD]

My inquiries to the engineers say that yes we are running the C50. Whats crazy is that the C50 code is shared amongst not only our xD, but also the corolla (AE92), MR2 Turbo, Celica MR2 Spyder, and toyota/lexus E350. So what we learned was that the "c50" code was clearly not enough info to find out compatibility. The Quaife unit we used and is compatible is the celica mr2 spyder unit.

i'll email quaife and let you know if it works on the A/T.

ACT is still getting back to me on specs on the clutch units.

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One of our more recent video's from our race at Washington if you haven't seen it yet.

http://www.youtube.com/rallyxd/#p/a/u/0/V1o92Cgtkyo

[xd_kidd]

Good find whack a mole. Useful info. And thanks rally. Glad to kno our trans is not so different afterall. So can you say that we can use the same flywheel from a mr2 spyder?

[Rally xD]

Check out our video recap from our recent victory at the Oregon Trail Rally.

[simmons0613]

epicness! I've been playing dirt 3 for the xbox 360 and you guys should have been in there.

[JDMJim]

ah ha!! quik question. Is the XD one-wheel-peel? or is the stock differential more biased to one side?

hangs a little to the left.....with really bad wheel hop if you need to know

[xd_kidd]

epicness! I've been playing dirt 3 for the xbox 360 and you guys should have been in there.

you should be playing on the ps3 lol

so part numbers for flywheel and clutch? :)[COLOR="Silver"]

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next post will be my 400th! stay tuned!

[Rally xD]

Sorry xd_kidd. info on the clutch is "SUPER" slow. ACT isn't getting back to us. I'll ask our techs instead but no promises.

[xd_kidd]

Its all good. Thanks tho

[Rally xD]

ACT got back to me. They're sending info on it this week.

Also vote for your favorite race livery competition on our site. Winner gets a new GoPro HD Camera. http://www.rallyxd.com/rallyxd/2011/06/vote-for-the-winning-livery/

[XDevolution]

any word on the quafe lsd for automatics? and how bout the turbo kit? and in ur turbo kit Rally do u guys have a blow-off valve or a recirculating valve?

[Whack-A-Mole]

What's your next move Rally XD?

[Rally xD]

I asked the main distributor of Quaife here in the states about automatics and unfortunately they have no idea. Getting specs on our turbo kit for you.

[Rally xD]

ACT sent our engineers the info and specs. We'll be posting up the info on the team site as soon we get the info.

[Rally xD]

ACT Clutch info for our xD, finally. The entire press release is on the team site now: www.rallyxd.com

Sorry for the delay, they were real slow on getting back to us.

[simmons0613]

so is that how much it would be if we wanted to run the same set up?

[Resolve]

Awesome so these are the clutches that will fit the xD

[Rally xD]

Yes those are the ones that ACT have that will work. The costs...i believe are MSRP but you should check with your local dealer/shop just in case.

[xd_kidd]

does the clutch upgrade improve for us with light mods? always thought it was to handle cars with more torque.

[xd_kidd]

Btw did ever gotten a weight comparison from the oem hood/hatch with the c.f ones?

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Another question the metal cover under your car did you ever felt a difference before and after you had that installed? Aerodynamic wise?

Another question (srry for the harassment lol) which lsd worked for you the best? Nd what's the part numbers? Lol

[JDMJim]

wants a hatch wing

[Rally xD]

Btw did ever gotten a weight comparison from the oem hood/hatch with the c.f ones?

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Another question the metal cover under your car did you ever felt a difference before and after you had that installed? Aerodynamic wise?

Another question (srry for the harassment lol) which lsd worked for you the best? Nd what's the part numbers? Lol

- We never really measured the difference. the reality, the savings was small but give that we really needed all the help we could get, we had to do it.
- the metal cover/skid plate under the car really weighed us down but is critical to rally racing. we could've gone a lot faster but probably wouldn't have been able to finish.
- the KAAZ LSD worked best for us. Its a "true" lsd and gave the driver better feel and response. Let me get the part number for you.

[xd_kidd]

Ok thanks! Ii was thinking of jst swaping motors but you guys motivate me to give it all with the limited parts we have .. I'm hoping soon to go weight reduction nd a few more performance mods. Thanks!

[Rally xD]

Looks like we'll be heading out to Maine for the last race of the Rally America series. Anyone out in that area by chance?

[JDMJim]

I'm on the way i suppose

[Rally xD]

New rebuilt engine with upgraded rods and pistons and a new set of GReddy turbo internals. New dyno session this weekend.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Cool, what do you mean rods?

[CXTKRS1]

Cool, what do you mean rods?

Connecting rods between the piston and crankshaft.

[xd_kidd]

it will rumble on idle :)

[Whack-A-Mole]

Connecting rods between the piston and crankshaft.

Kinda figured, but wasn't sure. I know it wasn't push rods!

[robbiej]

Congrats to the team on their 2nd place finish in Maine this past weekend. From watching some of the videos, the course looked rough.

[XDevolution]

i see on your blog you guys use 5w-30 synthetic motul oil. is there any benefit using that grade as oppose to the recomended graded? can i use it on a stock motor or should i just stick to 5w-20 synthetic?

[Rally xD]

The fluids that we are using right now is what our engineers with motul recommend now that we are running a turbo system on the xD. If your engine is still relatively stock, using the recommended is always a safe bet. A key factor is always your environment, depending on where you live and the weather conditions can also influence what you should use.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Are you guys going to do the rally thing next year?

[Rally xD]

The Rally America season is done for now but we are considering doing some Canadian events. As for next year, we are looking to do a combination of Rally American and Rally Cross events. What do you think?

[Whack-A-Mole]

I think that's a tall cup of awesome sauce! How was your new setup doing for you? New pistons probably more boost!?

[Rally xD]

The new set-up allowed us to increase the horsepower to 200 to the wheels. We were not able to push it as much as we wanted to so we believe that there is a lot more potential for us to increase power. We kept the boost still relatively conservative..i think we were at 7-8 lbs of boost.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Awesome news! So the weak link was the hollow pistons?

[Rally xD]

Awesome news! So the weak link was the hollow pistons?

We experienced a small leak in our down pipe. The heat leaking out really didn't help since our ecu and clutch cables were melted together. We're happy we even crossed the finish line.

[Whack-A-Mole]

Just read your article in Dsport, and it was awesome as well as insightful. So you guys were running 6.5 psi with TC injectors and bosch fuel pump on 91 octane making 165.1hp and 183.4 torque. Man that car is a torque monster! Also saw your dyno chart and saw the noticeable bump of power from the dual VVT-I was a little more subtle. Keep up the great works guys.

[Rally xD]

We're pushing 200hp now but we haven't really "fine tuned" the engine yet but the power definitely helped us in New England.

[Rally xD]

Just curious....how many serious buyers would want a turbo set-up for their xD? If there are more than 5...i think GReddy is considering making an off the shelf set-up. Please reply. Of course price is always a factor but like any other turbo upgrade, the costs will be similar. is there an ideal price range?

[Whack-A-Mole]

That would be really cool. I guess the price would depend on the power output. I'm guessing their 6.5psi setup would be around 4k? Also, this timing stings a little. Just spent 1k for exhaust that will not work for turbo setups.

[simmons0613]

I'm in. But of course it will take me a lil while to save up the coin.

[YELOSUB]

Is say keep it around 3k...Turbo set ups for the tC and the xB2 can be purchased for right around that price...It would have to plug and play...

[XDevolution]

when the turbo kit came out for the rally xd originally you guys were running 4 psi. that allowed for use of stock internals without worry about damage. for that ide take a 5 psi kit and im saying for everything 3k sounds good. no more than 4k. and what would the kit include?

[xd king]

im down , gotta start savin those pennies

[Rally xD]

Thanks for the feedback. Will be meeting with them in the coming weeks to discuss this. If there is any additional interest or buyers, please let me know.

[Resolve]

interested yes. Can I throwdown money for a promise to buy/groupbuy unfortunately not. It would probably be a year or two.

If it works with stock internals or has every needed and plug and play pretuned stand alone or something I would say $4k tops unless coming with major internals then a little more obviously.

If it needs to be tuned at all I would say stay around $3k mark.

[TheJonas53]

I know xD Kidd has been asking about the flywheel. So Rally xD are you using the stock flywheel or is there some sort of lighter flywheel that fits?

[Rally xD]

yes we are running a stock flywheel. the car is being re-prepped right now for the 2012 season. will let you know if that is changed.

[TheJonas53]

Sounds good. Cant wait to see whats in store for next season.

[xd_kidd]

Any good other mod updates?

[TheJonas53]

Anyone going to head to Michigan to see the xD run Sno*Drift January 27th and 28th?

*Edit.
Scratch that idea something came up that weekend. Rally xD do you plan on doing 100 Acre Wood?

[TheJonas53]

Congrats to the Scion rally team for a job well done at Sno*Drift. Took second place.

Some pictures I found from DirtyImpreza.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426667_290787347647687_154598987933191_825494_2047 05945_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/397177_290788504314238_154598987933191_825509_4882 47198_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/395503_290792384313850_154598987933191_825558_1744 091655_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/409450_290792490980506_154598987933191_825559_5698 79863_n.jpg

[ThisorThatxD]

awesome! i always brag about these guys.

[Whack-A-Mole]

I would have liked to see them, but it was pretty far from me. Plus my snow driving skills are non-existant. Thanks for keeping us updated on the blog and Facebook.

[TheJonas53]

I am going to see them at the 100 Acre Wood at the end of February. I will try to get some good shots of the car and team. Anyone else going to be able to make it to Salem Missouri on February 24th through 25th?

[robbiej]

I'm hoping to get to the Oregon Trail rally this year. Saw the car and talked to ACP last year at an event that Northwest Scion Events held the day before the rally.