Wow, that is dope. I cant wait to get mine done now!

@ resolve : right you are. my first experience with coilovers so itll be fun.

@ kylexd: im a couple hours or so depending on traffic. if you give me enough of a heads-up i might take a drive and assist with the install. im no pro but itll get familiar as we go. after you do this id recommend a rear sway in the near future. youll notice some body roll in tight corners like on-ramps. it was a great investment for me.

Ok, that sounds cool. Did you do your suspension?

And since I got my car I have been suspicious about the suspension, it seems real tight, and like it takes bumps kind of rough, the few other xd's I have seen around town look different than mine, mine also looks a little lower. Is there anyway to know whats going on...without jacking the car up and looking under there. I feel like the person who had it before me did "something" to the suspension, and im hoping he didnt take the cheap route and cut the springs.....and insight on this would be awesome.

what year is your xD? if your on stock tires that could be it. i remember those being pretty stiff in the sidewalls. after i did my springs and new wheel/tire combo it was a lot softer. if youre getting springs anyway, i wouldnt worry too much about it. personal opinion tho. someone might have some more insight.

and yea i did my suspension, with some buddies.

Go to the back of the vehicle and look underneath at the springs and see what color they are? This can be done without lifting the vehicle. Anything other than black is non stock. Also park on a flat surface and use a tape measure to measure from the center of the wheel well arch to the ground.

Well as far as I know at the moment, it should be stock. But the way it drives makes me think otherwise. Quite honestly, I think it drives like sh*t...lol. And yesterday I just noticed a squeaking noise coming from the left rear. So I def. need to look under there, and also need to post some pics. because it even looks lower then some other xd i have seen.

Well here are a couple of pics of my xD, by the way I did get under the back of my car and there are aftermarket springs. Gonna take a pic of them tomm.

Yeah from the pics it is definitely lowered. What color were the springs. and pics would be great when you get them.

just from eyeballing it, appears you might be on TRD springs. looks about the same stance mine had with them on stocks. if you get down there and your springs are red, which they may be to match the rest of the car, then they are TRD springs.

^^^ that's what I was thinking TRDs

and now seeing how you said the car rides, i would really think you have TRDs. i thought mine was stiff and a lil rough while on those springs. IMO the ride with the Teins is a lil softer and less stiff.

yea either trds or cut springs based on ride quality. trds ride pretty rough, and cut springs seem pretty common place in the scion world (unfortunately). does seem a little lower than trds though. maybe the tanabe nfs? id kinda bet on cut springs though. unless his trds sit lower for some reason

this was my car on trds:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3297/3...d7e407b4_z.jpg

Cut and heated springs are big no-nos

this is very true, and yet somehow they seemed like they were everywhere when i was part of the scion community.

It also depends on angle/view of shot and tire differences between both cars. but even so his does seem lower. but then factor in all car are different. hmm now you got me thinking. we def need pics of rear springs.
maybe it is some cheap dropzone coils they are red also. Those can drop low and are really cheap and ride rough as hell. Had them on my 1st gen xB

true that but those 16s were running the factory 195/6?/16 turanzas that come on the car. so unless his tires are bigger which they dont seem like it, its either a diff spring or cut. thats almost DF210 low with the lower back end than front (diff rake than what the teins give). dont know anything about drop zone, and cant really think of anything else from the spring options for the xD

Yeah he said red so first thoughts were TRD, but if it is that low based on comparision pics then Dropzones are red maybe a few other knockoffs which would explain rough ride also. I think they give roughly a 2 inch drop like the DFs

Dropzones are cheap EBAY springs. They are like $100

df210s are red

Sorry for late response, I dont know alot but I know something aint right here with my springs. I still need to take a picture of them but they are green and black.

well the only springs i know for the xd that are green are Teins. but, i havent really looked at a lot of different kinds for this car. so, they may be some knockoff brand.

anyways, i wouldnt worry too much about it if you are gonna change them out for Teins in the near future. i guess just grin and bear it til you get em changed out for some springs that you actually know some info about.

HAHA I thought you said they were red but now looking back it was Sweet that said that. Green and Black? hmph. Is it green with like a black Plastic looking wrap around part of it? If so it sounds like Tein. If you get a good look see if you see the word Tein printed on them.

Yeah, im gonna get a picture of them up here. I'll have some trouble explaining this, but the thing that concerns me is that when I looked at the springs on the rear theres like 8 or 9 coils in the spring (i didnt count) anyhow.....there is only about an inch of space between the very bottom coil and all the coils above it are "compressed", so basically about a inch of room left for the spring to move. Isnt this bad?

dude if you do have teins then you dont need to worry, they put tons of r&d into them. they are safe. if you dont like the ride or are still concerned about safety get rid of them. easy money cause lots of people are looking for them cheap. if you decide to keep them the only thing they might cause is premature strut wear.

if the previous owner put on teins and didn't cut the bumpstops on the struts, this could be your rough ride factor....granted teins arent the smoothest ride on stock shocks/struts to begin with.

Heres the springs. Two of the rear, and one of the front.

teins for sure. and they look rather new too. ill take a look at mine tomorrow to see how they compare in terms of compression.

They look like Teins, but im not sure. You don't look low enough. And mine have a black tape wrapped around the coil. They also have Tein printed on them. I could be wrong though. Like I said, they look like Teins but I would think you would be lower.

Thats what I was thinking, as far as the website goes theres one set of springs tein makes for the '10 XD, and its a 2.2 drop, I knew my car was lowered....but not that much. I guess im kind of getting a little used to the ride, its not bad as far as turning and all, I just take bumps hard, and I hate that. And I also swear I can hear a little squeaking from them, the back left one for sure cause it does it when i push down on the car.

You're right about the 2.2 drop. As far as I know, the Teins fit 08-11. I didn't notice Tein printed on ur springs. I just got down and checked mine and it's pretty plain to see the Tein printed on them. I know it can vary from car to car, but I have virtually no gap on my stock wheels and tires. Looks like you still have some. I personally haven't looked into many other brands for appearance. But if those are Teins, I would think something is a lil different than mine.

Yeah, I would like to find out for sure what they are, so I could look them up, and see the specs and all.

I haven't had springs ever on these cars other than stock but I didn't think the coils should be sitting on each other in the middle at stand still like they are. But Again I never had aftermarket springs on the xD.

Also your noise in the back I know what that is. Who ever put the springs in didn't take the black rubber pieces off the stock springs and put them on the aftermarket ones before installing. The rubber pieces stop the spring from rubbing and making noise.


Here is what I would do. Take the back springs out. at least the one on the driver side. Look at it and see if it says Tein on it printed in white letters NOTa sticker. If it is, replace it with Tein facing the correct way, meaning not upside down. and see what that does. It almost seems the Spring is in upside down. This can affect the ride and height

This is more how it should look in the back:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/galler...c_021-3138.jpg


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Also need to make sure the put right springs on right end of car. That can affect height and ride as well. But based on pics it looks like they are on the right side. But since I am not there in person I can't say for sure.

Ok, so i've got a little work to do. As for taking it out....I dont have to remove the tire, just jack it up right? Will I need any tools? I really want to figure out what kind they are.

well, to take the back springs out, you wont need to take the wheel off. you can get it off with a socket wrench, maybe an open end, and a couple jacks. or one jack and some jack stands.

literally, you could have the back spring out in 5 minutes.

google a how to or something if you want pics. thats what i did

jack up the rear of the car and put it on stands (if you have them) if not, use a second jack or the one you have to lift up the bottom of the shock to compress it. undo the bolt at the bottom of the shock and then slowly lower it down. that should release everything and the spring should drop out.

BEST DONE WITH HELP.

Undo and remove the bolt at the bottom of the shock with car on ground. Jack up the rear of the car so it's high enough to pull out springs but low enough that the springs don't just fall out (or jack it up until they fall out the lower it back down a little bit). This is very helpful if doing it alone explain more in a sec. Once jacked up put it on stands (if you have them and highly recommended most auto places sell them for about $20 for a pair. Or if you have flea market new yew check there if they have a tool booth normally get a set for around $10 to $15. Little money spent for added protection and possible life saving devices.)

OK if you have two people have one person get under car and ready to pull springs out while second person pushes on tire enough to allow springs to be removed. It may take a little work depending on how far down the tire can be pushed. If tire hits before springs come out have the second person put jack under car and jack little increaments and the push down on tire until the spring comes out. Due to it being aftermarket you shouldn't need car to high. To reinstall have person push back down on tire while the spring is replaced. If the car was originally jacked high enough for the spring to fall out the put spring on bottom spring cup and then lay near rear bumper, but not under as helper lowers the vehicle slowly. once the upper spring cup nipple is touching spring lower it just a little bit more and then get under car and have helper push down on tire. Once the Spring is in place just lower it all the way.

If alone, then as stated jack car high enough for spring to come loose without falling out. It may take a little more force to pull the spring out since no one will be pushing on tire. If it it too tight to pull out use jack as mentioned above and lift car in small incraments until you can pull it out using a little force. This is why I mentioned only raise it up a little without it falling out. If you are alone it is a PITA if the spring keeps falling while trying to lower it if you raised the car to high. But if it is just low enough you will need a little force to get the spring in and out, but the upper spring cup nipple will hold the spring in place once it is back in and keep it from falling out so you can slide out from under the car and lower it.


Once the car is on the ground the you can use your hand to compress the shock enough to sit back in the shock mount and put the bolt back into it. It Takes some force but not alot and it will slowly compress.

Hope this helps. Once you get under there and start or even just look at it you will see how I am describing things.

Ok, will do. Probably this weekend cause I will wait for a friend to help me. And then we will see whats up.

Ok, I posted this up in the scikotics forum as well, and one guy was pretty sure they are teins. And he also gave me a link, I will post it next.

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http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13256412490432

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There is the link, and if in fact those are the springs, which they look like it....then I might as well keep them, they are pricey. I just want to be sure they are installed correctly.

When you pull them off just check to see if they have the word TEIN printed on them. If they have a sticker that says TEIN then you will need to get new springs as soon as possible. I haven't heard of it lately but there were some people making knock off Tein springs for the first gen xB a few years ago and the had a sticker that said Tein on the but the springs started failing. Tein prints their name on the spring not sticker. JUST FYI

Well in that case....I will definitely be taking one of the rear springs off to look at it. And if everything checks out, do you think I should keep them? What about Tanabe's?

As for the Fake Teins I don't remember ever hearing about them for the xD. SO you should be good there. They are most likely real Teins.

I would keep the Teins if you have them just make sure they are in correctly.

Ok, sounds good. I will pull one out to check it. As for them being installed properly, can I reference the Tein site to see the install procedure?