Like i said b4 i had just the cone but i wanted straight pipe the ribbings in the stock silicone intake retract and slow flow down, as well as the grill like set up in the stock maf pipe, im going for straight smooth flow. I talked to a professional fabricator and he makes intakes and turbos and manifolds for a living, any little crevice or slight turn can affect power and flow so thats why im still gonna put forth that extra 30 bucks and call it a day.